But what does it sound like? ;) Mix to an RMS or LU level, leave the limiter there as a safety, but concentrate on the sound and whatever dynamic range you want it to inhabit. It doesn't have to smack its head on a limiter to sound good. If you do want this to happen and you can't lower the limiter threshold, you either need to increase the gain at the output of the previous stage in the chain or insert a gain plugin before the limiter. Remember that it's the makeup gain in a limiter that increases intrinsic loudness, not the limiter itself, although some BWLs auto compensate. >