by the way, 9.2 that ships with the quicksilvers (i have a 733) are not backwards compatible. i tried loading 9.1, then tried 9.0 and 9.04...nothin'. SO: my system works, after ironing out many bugs and removing OSX but i was much happier with os 9.1 AND os 9.04. i'm running ptle 5.1.1 oh and also, i had to buy a new atto scsi card (dual channel) because my single channel did not function in my new quicksilver but continues to function great in my G4 350...THAT was frustrating. the atto tech described to me that the motherboards in the quicksilvers are a different "version" that need more current hardware, etc. weird but all good to know. i'm considering seling my 733 now to get more of my money out of it, than waiting until digi and apple get on the same page (or at least a LITTLE closer with updates, etc.). at that time, i'll buy whatever the latest box is digi approves...the things we do for love! 